tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4280568258451532635.post2126153154453698207..comments2023-10-06T04:03:02.518-04:00Comments on The Doctor Isn't: If Assessment Goals Were In Any Way Honest...Dr. Curmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17311538014480815090noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4280568258451532635.post-82310999508863928752007-11-05T21:06:00.000-05:002007-11-05T21:06:00.000-05:00That sounds like an interesting class, Belle. All...That sounds like an interesting class, Belle. All my dancing girl jokes seem to be happening in another thread though, so I'll just say thanks for the reassurance.Dr. Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17311538014480815090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4280568258451532635.post-81324191367472736092007-11-05T20:49:00.000-05:002007-11-05T20:49:00.000-05:00Well, those are my goals when I do the hated surve...Well, those are my goals when I do the hated survey. But then, I have a colleague who thinks he's succeeded if the students know the concept of challenge and response, the phrase 'the gunpowder revolution' and the name of Gen Soandso's horse.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I'm all about dogs and ponies. But the show I put on is more... dancing damsels and dudes.Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10849272391043604637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4280568258451532635.post-87203245239172153092007-11-05T11:30:00.000-05:002007-11-05T11:30:00.000-05:00They seem to be doing okay with it thus far, thoug...They seem to be doing okay with it thus far, though for me the question will be what happens when course X is over. Will the knowledge move on with them? <BR/><BR/>Realistically, it'll probably only stick with a scant few, but right now, I'll take that slim difference.Dr. Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17311538014480815090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4280568258451532635.post-47354652345640520602007-11-04T10:26:00.000-05:002007-11-04T10:26:00.000-05:00Good luck, my comrade. For some reason, students ...Good luck, my comrade. For some reason, students act like citing is some sort of arcane, elusive knowledge they themselves could never employ. When you think about it, though, citing properly is actually a combination of attention to detail, reading comprehension, and making choices in their writing. All that said, citation should be easy for an undergrad, and every time I decide I am going to teach citation, I wind up tearing at my hair in abject frustration.Chaserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02124246378936489539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4280568258451532635.post-4575428680715239832007-11-02T23:51:00.000-04:002007-11-02T23:51:00.000-04:00What frustrates me isn't so much the dog and pony ...What frustrates me isn't so much the dog and pony show of it, though that's frustrating. The real problem is the pretense that all the guidelines and such that have been forced into my syllabus and onto me are justified as being for the students. <BR/><BR/>As for the course, I've set modest goals for it - the students will have some sense of how to cite is really the big one.Dr. Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17311538014480815090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4280568258451532635.post-17749144496859067902007-11-02T23:40:00.000-04:002007-11-02T23:40:00.000-04:00Perfectly put. I teach our departmental introduc...Perfectly put. I teach our departmental introduction course and it's all dogs, ponies, and sugar water in pretty bottles. <BR/><BR/>I feel like a prostitute, most days. <BR/><BR/>This is, naturally, the course that none of the Abe Simpsons in the deparment will teach...can't tear themselves away from Lawrence Welk.Chaserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02124246378936489539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4280568258451532635.post-58453683625478390342007-11-02T13:55:00.000-04:002007-11-02T13:55:00.000-04:00BINGO! when i was teaching the intro course(s), i ...BINGO! when i was teaching the intro course(s), i was deemed "successful" by the administration because there was an increase in undecideds who converted to majors. was the course good? did they learn anything? who cares? the dog and pony show "worked" (according to their very narrow definition of success) and that's all that matters.ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13427741354514319653noreply@blogger.com